Below you find an article dating from August 15th, which shows that GOD is on the subject too (see my commentary from August 3rd below this one)! A click on the headline leads you to the full length original article on the web site of Fox News where you will also find the right wing commentaries of the usual religious fascists which I omitted here for reasons of irrelevance and their insult to the most basic intelligence and the word of GOD alike. We believe in Compassion, Peace, Love and GOD's Commandments to the world. We are against violence, hypocrites, prejudice and lies. Many of our fellow Americans seemingly forgot all this to blindly serve their religious idols with their phony messages and speeches (see the Trinity Broadcasting Network) who only have one goal: to get to your money and to brainwash any compassion or sound thought out of your mind, so you become their blind follower. Whom you actually follow is clear when you look whom they support. An administration that lives on lies and deceit. And in the end it will surely cost you more that just money. It has already cost the lives of too many of our soldiers (By the way: We support our Troops! We are just against the illegal war started by a president who was not even elected) and of tens of thousands of civilians. GOD is trying to save you from these mistakes, that is why you are reading these lines right now. Keep reading and judge for yourself. I am very surprised that it is the Roman Catholic Church that recently makes my case, even though I am closer to Martin Luther's reforming spirit than to the pope. But unlike the Pseudo-Christian Churches and preachers in the US, the Pope agrees - like me - that Evolution is a fact that does not exclude GOD. GOD created the Heavens and the Earth. He could have done it a few thousand years ago (why should he anyway, when it was already there for Millions of years???), but he obviously did not do it 5,000 or 6,000 years ago (this is the story according to the Jewish calendar and the Old Testament which is basically the history of the Jews) but Millions of years ago. And he created everything else through Evolution - which definitely took longer than several thousand years and is not remotely finished. Some brains still seem to be in the beginning stages... And I don't think that neither the History of the Jews or the Jewish calendar overrules the way GOD actually did it. But back to the way GOD spreads the right thoughts at the right time. GOD Bless America!
Roman Catholic Bishop Wants Everyone to Call God 'Allah'
Wednesday, August 15, 2007
A proposal by a Roman Catholic bishop in the Netherlands that people of all faiths refer to God as "Allah" is not sitting well with the Catholic community. Bishop Martinus Muskens, an outgoing bishop who is retiring in a few weeks from the southern diocese of Breda, said God doesn't care what he is called.
"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem," Muskens told Dutch television. Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based Islamic civil liberties and advocacy group, backs the idea as a way to help interfaith understanding. "It reinforces the fact that Muslims, Christians and Jews all worship the same God," Hooper told FOXNews.com. "I don't think the name is as important as the belief in God and following God's moral principles. I think that's true for all faiths." Christians who are Arabic speakers speak of Allah when they speak of God, Hooper added.
The Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago supports the idea. “I think it will open up doors,” said Janaan Hashim, a spokeswoman for the group representing more than 400,000 Muslim Americans in the Chicago area. “Language is a man-made limitation. I think what God cares about is how we fulfill our purpose in life.” The nation’s largest Catholic civil rights group says Catholics won't get behind the proposal.
Muskens spent eight years in Indonesia, where he said priests used the word "Allah" during Mass. Muskens also has drawn attention for other ideas such as encouraging the hungry to steal bread and offering condoms to combat HIV and AIDS.FOXNews.com's Melissa Drosjack and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
I don't think we should call GOD Al-lah. But I absolutely agree that this is an important thought in these times, where hate and ignorance rules over the word of GOD and outweighs the truth in this world. Islam was born from Judaism and Christianity and Al-lah is GOD. So the message of hate that is being sent from both sides - the extremists of Islam as well as the religious fascists here - has a purpose for them, not for GOD. The same Christians that are judging the Islamic Terrorists are trying to create little Christian suicide bombers in their Jesus camps. GOD does not want Terror! GOD wants Peace and Love. That is why he sent Jesus! To change the message of hate and war, an eye for an eye, into Love and "turn the other cheek". Please listen to the words of the false Prophets in your life and compare them to the facts and to GOD's word! By the way: I also agree with Muskens' encouraging the hungry to steal bread and offering condoms to combat HIV and AIDS!
Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Friday, August 3, 2007
Jesus Christ or Allah?
Hate mail distracts from illegal occupation of Iraq and other real issues
This is a brief commentary about a hate email that is being sent from very coldly calculating people to many ignorant people who actually think they are doing the world a service in spreading a warning.
The real goal of the initial sender is to distract as many people as possible from the real issues like the illegal war and occupation that is going on, that Terrorists are only mentioned close to elections (and only spring in action when asked to by the right people in power), that most of the "insurgents" in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia (Bush's only friends in this world) and not from other countries like Iran, that 1 Million valid votes for a Democratic president were not counted due to illegal Republican intervention, that the Katrina victims are still in peril (but most of them are black, so the Government does not really care) and many more issues - too many to mention here.
Illegal Immigration is another one of the “pressing Subjects” that suddenly arose - just in time to distract from all this and the illegal occupation of a foreign, sovereign country with the only goal to line the pockets of the power elite of the US. But here is another issue: false information is spread about a religion and the believers in this religion. Here the chain hate mail in all it’s glory:
Jesus Christ or Allah?
This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose.(IMPORTANT TO READ!) The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!!
Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ? . By Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar."
He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!"
The Imam was speechless! I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us send it on! This is your chance to make a difference...Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts
And here my answer to the addressees on the mailing list:
Here some info from "Break the chain" and Snopes.com http://snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp. And may God bless you all!
The veracity of the claims made in it is the author's to prove. Unfortunately, Rick Mathes told BreakTheChain.org that he will not provide further details because, in his words, "I fear retribution - I have a 20 year prison ministry to protect."
Third-party accounts of the events in question paint a significantly different picture than the one offered by Mathes. Tim Kniest, spokesman for the Missouri Department of Corrections, told the Lee news service that the training session in question was for prison volunteers and took place in a corrections facility in Fulton, MO. However, according to Kniest, prison officials' recollection of events that day differ from Mathes' in several aspects:
Religious leaders representing faiths followed by current inmates were invited to present.
The presenter on Islam was not an Imam, but rather a Muslim inmate who was pressed into presenting after no Imam could be arranged.
Prison officials confirm that the Muslim inmate was asked a few questions that he was unable to answer, but none along the lines of those suggested by Mr. Mathes.
This essay falls short of being the proof that Islam's leaders cannot deny the violent nature of their own religion that many would have it be. Since both sides of the argument have recognized that the person Mathes was questioning was not an Islamic official nor a recognized expert in the religion, his actions should not be considered indicative of all Muslims. Break this chain.
If one is willing to ignore history, context, and actual practice when quoting scripture and other religious texts, followers of just about any religion can be painted as uniformly fanatic and intolerant. Consider the following recasting of the piece quoted above:
The minister gave a great presentation of the basics of Christianity, complete with a video. After the presentations time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn I directed my question to the minister and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that in Exodus 35:2 the Bible instructs Christians to kill everyone who works on the sabbath: 'Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.'"
There was no disagreement with my statement.
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. God has commanded Christians to kill everyone who works on Sunday, even Muslims and other non-Christians?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then said, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine the Prophet Muhammad commanding all Muslims to kill those of your faith for not observing the Muslim sabbath."The minister was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with your Bible commanding all Christians to stone to death anyone who criticizes your God, as detailed in Leviticus 24:16.
Let me ask you a question . . . would you rather have your God who tell[s] you to kill me in order to go to heaven or my Allah who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me?"You could have heard a pin drop as the minister hung his head in shame.
I know you are honest and will forward this to the same people who received the original from you. Thanks, God bless you and Amen.
Let us take a look at the goal of the email: The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! This sentence alone already shows why it was written. Hate against "minority races". The KKK could not have done a better job. Hitler set the stage in a similar manner against the Jews that he killed. And I know that the people who send this mail to other people are Christians. But how does this hate work in accord with the word of GOD. And I mean the commandments 'You shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor" and "Love your enemies and Pray for those who persecute you" and the teachings of Paul. The Old Testament is the history of the Jews, nice to read but not really our business. It is sad and amazing at the same time how ignorant and eager some people are to spread lies and deception for people who really mean serious harm to their fellow humans. By the way: the Question Jesus Christ or Allah is not really a valid question. Allah and GOD are the same. GOD tells us there is only one GOD and so does the Qur'an which is based on the Jewish faith as well as on Christianity. It is the same GOD we are talking about. Al-llah is GOD and GOD is Al-llah.
This is a brief commentary about a hate email that is being sent from very coldly calculating people to many ignorant people who actually think they are doing the world a service in spreading a warning.
The real goal of the initial sender is to distract as many people as possible from the real issues like the illegal war and occupation that is going on, that Terrorists are only mentioned close to elections (and only spring in action when asked to by the right people in power), that most of the "insurgents" in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia (Bush's only friends in this world) and not from other countries like Iran, that 1 Million valid votes for a Democratic president were not counted due to illegal Republican intervention, that the Katrina victims are still in peril (but most of them are black, so the Government does not really care) and many more issues - too many to mention here.
Illegal Immigration is another one of the “pressing Subjects” that suddenly arose - just in time to distract from all this and the illegal occupation of a foreign, sovereign country with the only goal to line the pockets of the power elite of the US. But here is another issue: false information is spread about a religion and the believers in this religion. Here the chain hate mail in all it’s glory:
Jesus Christ or Allah?
This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose.(IMPORTANT TO READ!) The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!!
Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ? . By Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar."
He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!"
The Imam was speechless! I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us send it on! This is your chance to make a difference...Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts
And here my answer to the addressees on the mailing list:
Here some info from "Break the chain" and Snopes.com http://snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp. And may God bless you all!
The veracity of the claims made in it is the author's to prove. Unfortunately, Rick Mathes told BreakTheChain.org that he will not provide further details because, in his words, "I fear retribution - I have a 20 year prison ministry to protect."
Third-party accounts of the events in question paint a significantly different picture than the one offered by Mathes. Tim Kniest, spokesman for the Missouri Department of Corrections, told the Lee news service that the training session in question was for prison volunteers and took place in a corrections facility in Fulton, MO. However, according to Kniest, prison officials' recollection of events that day differ from Mathes' in several aspects:
Religious leaders representing faiths followed by current inmates were invited to present.
The presenter on Islam was not an Imam, but rather a Muslim inmate who was pressed into presenting after no Imam could be arranged.
Prison officials confirm that the Muslim inmate was asked a few questions that he was unable to answer, but none along the lines of those suggested by Mr. Mathes.
This essay falls short of being the proof that Islam's leaders cannot deny the violent nature of their own religion that many would have it be. Since both sides of the argument have recognized that the person Mathes was questioning was not an Islamic official nor a recognized expert in the religion, his actions should not be considered indicative of all Muslims. Break this chain.
If one is willing to ignore history, context, and actual practice when quoting scripture and other religious texts, followers of just about any religion can be painted as uniformly fanatic and intolerant. Consider the following recasting of the piece quoted above:
The minister gave a great presentation of the basics of Christianity, complete with a video. After the presentations time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn I directed my question to the minister and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that in Exodus 35:2 the Bible instructs Christians to kill everyone who works on the sabbath: 'Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.'"
There was no disagreement with my statement.
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. God has commanded Christians to kill everyone who works on Sunday, even Muslims and other non-Christians?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then said, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine the Prophet Muhammad commanding all Muslims to kill those of your faith for not observing the Muslim sabbath."The minister was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with your Bible commanding all Christians to stone to death anyone who criticizes your God, as detailed in Leviticus 24:16.
Let me ask you a question . . . would you rather have your God who tell[s] you to kill me in order to go to heaven or my Allah who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me?"You could have heard a pin drop as the minister hung his head in shame.
I know you are honest and will forward this to the same people who received the original from you. Thanks, God bless you and Amen.
Let us take a look at the goal of the email: The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! This sentence alone already shows why it was written. Hate against "minority races". The KKK could not have done a better job. Hitler set the stage in a similar manner against the Jews that he killed. And I know that the people who send this mail to other people are Christians. But how does this hate work in accord with the word of GOD. And I mean the commandments 'You shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor" and "Love your enemies and Pray for those who persecute you" and the teachings of Paul. The Old Testament is the history of the Jews, nice to read but not really our business. It is sad and amazing at the same time how ignorant and eager some people are to spread lies and deception for people who really mean serious harm to their fellow humans. By the way: the Question Jesus Christ or Allah is not really a valid question. Allah and GOD are the same. GOD tells us there is only one GOD and so does the Qur'an which is based on the Jewish faith as well as on Christianity. It is the same GOD we are talking about. Al-llah is GOD and GOD is Al-llah.
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